With Richard Newcombe and Vivienne Ming
In this special edition of the ReD podcast, we’re bringing you the best bits of a conversation that took place last week in our offices in NYC, where Ian Dull sat down with neuroscientist and entrepreneur Vivienne Ming and VP of Research Science at Meta’s Reality Labs, Richard Newcombe, to discuss the role of bodies in the age of AI
In front of a packed room on a cold New York evening, they discussed how computers “see” and interpret the world compared to how we as humans do, when and how to integrate these technologies for different industries from healthcare to education, tech to finance, and finally, what’s next for more embodied forms of AI.
Host: Ian Dull
Guests: Richard Newcombe and Vivienne Ming
Introduced by Matthew Janney

Ian Dull is a lead on ReD’s global technology and mobility practices. With a background in anthropology and design, he helps companies across consumer and medical technology, mobility, and industrials develop strategies and identify new opportunities in emerging social and technological worlds. At ReD, he specializes in long-term innovation projects and translating ethnographic insight into concrete products and experiences. Prior to joining ReD, he applied anthropology and design to the world of architectural heritage at UNESCO. He holds an MPhil in Archaeology and Anthropology from Cambridge and a BA from Yale.